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    LOL. I'm with you footmanfl. The gov't has not limited any of my personal liberties. George III has far more serious items to attend to than guys turned on by feet. My view is that part of his agenda is to secure our freedom by helping the world end choke holds of dictator nuts and religious fanatics in the middle east who would likely chop off our feet and dicks if they thought we are having fun. There are some narrow religious fanatics in USA but not near as feindish as the likes of people who fly airplanes into buildings killing thousands of people they don't know. Those are the "snakes" whose global agenda we need to curb. I enjoy minding my own business, choosing my own associates, foot watching and chatting on the internet with people of my own choosing. I don't want some raghead fanatic watching over me who gets bent out of shape because of cartoons. We need to all widen our mindsets to consider long term outcomes for everybody in a secure environment. A small number of fanatical pseudo Islamics want to rule the world. THEY-- not true Muslims--are the satanic ambassadors who are freedom's real threat. Guys count your blessings, work together--or move to the middle east. [Or else you might have to against your will.]

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    Default Get a grip, men.

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  3. Default Read between the lines...

    Firstly, I'm not pointing out foot sites in general. I mean all forms of porn, sexual message boards...etc. Now, I know we won't get him impeached, but we are sending a message to our "goverment". Sure, we want to know why we are still in Iraq, and why did we invade Iraq to begin with? Oh yea, I forgot WMP, silly me. I don't recall us finding any though, silly Dubbya. So for those of you who are fine with ALL the lying of this administration, the VP's accident on that hunting trip, appointing Ashcroft as the head law enforcment officer in the first round of us being held hostage, Ashcroft, probably the most conservative man in America! Who knows if porn would still be on the web. And what about all the conservatives getting together and reading their bibles, (I have nothing against fairy tales, but this is the 21st century and the big bang theory is looking pretty damn believable) and coming to their conclusion that marriage can only be between a man and a women? Doesn't any of this rub you the wrong way? hey, if you don't want to sign it, don't. I got no problem with it. But this is still America and I want to keep it that way before all my rights are gone.

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    Thanks, Webmaster!

    And for all of you who have not YET been personally affected by the increasingly fascist policies of Dumbya and his puppet masters, I offer the following:

    First they came for the Jews
    and I did not speak out
    because I was not a Jew.
    Then they came for the Communists
    and I did not speak out
    because I was not a Communist.
    Then they came for the trade unionists
    and I did not speak out
    because I was not a trade unionist.
    Then they came for me
    and there was no one left
    to speak out for me.


    Pastor Martin Niemöller


    Think about it.............

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    Dear jaxjazzguy:

    Couldn't have said it any better! Just because they haven't infringed on your civil liberties YET, doesn't mean that isn't their ultimate goal.

    And yes, I agree that Christian fundamentalists, unlike Islamic ones, don't want to behead me. However, I'm sure they'd lose no sleep over imprisonment.

    B

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    Thank you, Barry.

    And while it may not be the goal of christian fundamentalists to behead us with an axe, they will relentlessly continue their efforts to theoretically behead us by legislating away our right to think. act, and choose for ourselves. We need to speak up whenever and however we can. We owe it to each other, as well as to the next generation.

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    Default Thank you, jaxjazzguy420...

    For your posting of Pastor Niemoller's famous words. I think that what lies behind so many of the guy's refusal to see the fundamental reality of what Dubya and his Busheviks are is that so many individuals see him as the guarantor of their personal financial stakes in things. "He's supposed to be a solid capitalist guy, right?" as a friend of mine intoned to me a few months back. And the answer to that query is this: "Well, sort of--if you personally are a billionaire oligarch. But if you're a little 'middle class' guy with more financial ambitions than money, George Bush has done and will do less than nothing for you." And that's what to me is odd--that so many guys and gals view Bush as some sort of capitalist savior who will stop the social spenders at the door. But nothing could be further from the truth. His super-rich oligarch backers, between their export of capital, technology, jobs, and manufacturing facilities aboard (to take advantage of cheap foreign slave labor wagers), are fast destroying America's industrial based economy. And the tide of red ink imbalance in our exports vs. imports (which is going to top the $1 billion figure this year, more than likely) as the happy capitalists of China, Japan, Korea, and India's unholy glee makes apparent, does nothing for the middle and working classes of this country except steadily expand the breadth and depth of the sea of fiscal red ink that is going to finally rool over the U.S. economy and population like a tidal wave.

    And when one adds in Bush's obvious ongoing assault on the U.S. Constitution, steadily curtailing and shrinking our traditional personal liberties in this great nation, and Bush's doctrine of Executive Supremacy (that in the Bushevik view justifies him ignoring the laws passed by Congress), it is overwhelming obvious that Dubya is nothing less than a Fascist Plutocrat. MOst of us Americans are capitalists for sure, but few of us are or will ever be billionaire oligarch capitalists. Back early this year I asked a super-rich acquaintance of mine where the devil he would run if he and his cornies sink the U.S. economy, and the son-of-a-gun told me: "Well, I've got a big house in Asia that's all set up and furnished, and that's where I'll go and take my family with me!" Aargh!

    I have myself always been a capitalist, but how on earth anyone can view Dubya as anything but a crony of the Super-Rich is beyond me. As for Iraq, the Busheviks had a democratic election there last January, and not surprisingly, the sixty per cent of the Iraquis that are Shia Moslems voted for Shia parties. And if you guys follows the breaking news at all, now the Bush administration is denouncing the democratically elected Shia-dominated government in Iraq because those silly Shia folks took an extremely dim view of the U.S. military massacre of Shia worshippers in a mosque last week and, in response, are now demanding that the Americans get out of Iraq. Meaning what? That the Busheviks back democratic elections in the Middle East only when foreign electors vote in the folks that Bush wants them to? And at present Bush, Cheney, and their Neocon cronies are pushing hard to launch a U.S. military attack on Iran, a country four times the size and population of Iraq! His madness never stops. "Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad", the ancient Roman dictim comes readily to mind.

    The Webster is right in his view on Bush, and I for one am delighted that he is personally so clearsighted on the very real threat to American liberty that the Busheviks clearly represent. And the Niemoller quote from jaxjazzguy is entirely apposite--because Martin Niemoller personally supported Hitler and his Nazi gang until well into WW II. "Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it"--Jose Ortega y Gasset.

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    Ah yes, the Good Pastor definitely started on the wrongf side of things, (don't you just LOVE organized religion?) but he did eventually see his error and set about trying to make amends. Hence his oft-quoted words which will forever more serve as a warning against apathy.

    It would be nice if even ONE of the members of the Bush cabal would have a similar epiphany before it's too late, but I'm not holding my breath! That's why We, The People need to be vigilant about our rights and freedom.

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    Amen, finally... I was waiting for someone to make that point, very well said. Since their certainly working on us, that is colored people; I have to say that with a laugh, no civil rights any more, thats my PERSONAL experience, it does leave you bitter. Lawyers call people like me 2-4's, which transilates 2 minorities 4 one, thats really fucked-up, but then if I were a black lesbian? 3-4-1, but I know you can't or won't address that so fuck it.

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    Default I must make a correction...

    The U.S. trade imbalance this year will like reach the one trillion dollar benchmark (not, as I mistakenly said previous one billion).

    And, yes, pltown510, I agree with you that the Super-Rich are being particularly swinish and greedy with regard to the condign abuse and neglect they continue to accord to Black folks. A friend of mine who is the elected sheriff of a parish in Louisiana that fronts on the Gulf Coast told me not long ago (January, I think) that in his view, based on all of the relevant info that the mass media refuse to publish, that there is a cabal of real estate interests and oligarchs who are positively lusting to dispossess the poor Black people who previous to Hurricane Katrina ravaging their area lived in small but solid houses all along the Mississippi Delta and elsewhere up in Louisiana. I ask my friend what was the real estate interests' game, and he told me that they've got a "vision" of rebuilding New Orleans and that whole region as a Las Vegas East, replete with huge resorts and casinos, and replacing the humble dwellings of the traditional Black homeowners with mega-sized vanity mansions and lavish townhouses and condos that they envision will be bought by the rich and the super-rich.

    My friend said he believes that, and he also stated that the fate of the dispossessed Blacks of the region is literally of no interest or concern to the big money interests that, with the Busheviks, are intent on seizing the Blacks' hurricane-ravaged homes and paying them pennies on the dollar (if anything at all) for their property. I think my friend is probably right on the mark with this. The whole boondoggle of the real estate interests and the complicit Busheviks in this scandalous abuse of these solid Black Americans warrants full congressional investigation and criminal charges if the evidence comes to light--which will never happen unless the rotten, corrupt GOP loses its stranglehold on the U.S. Congress this coming November. And of course the rampant "Housing Bubble" is going to pop and deflate massively, meaning that their greedy vision of building a Las Vegas East in New Orleans simply will never comes to pass.

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