Guys, let's make a difference

[FootBuddiesModerator]

When I posted the original IMPEACH BUSH website on here, I was saddened to see how many people suggested I remove it due to the fact this was a "FOOT FETISH" site. Now anyone who wants to view the conversation, can see that we can have an intellegent conversation, and we're not all about feet. Thank you everyone who contributed to this string. I think in the future I will add a section to "FOOTBUDDIES that is off the foot topic, and make this a more than a "JUST FEET" community so we can discuss what's going on in the world.

[Franz]

I for one was very happy to see your original message you posted that began this string. And like you, I, too, was dismayed by all the snappish, waspish posts that were added in which the guys writing them complained that there could be anything posted other than messages and/or pics of male feet. Each time I saw and read another one of those messages, I'd think to myself: "Geez, man--get a clue!"

Back a couple years ago, I found that many of my social friends and acquaintainces were so totally locked onto the overriding desire to make money for themselves that they evidenced a great reluctance to confront personally the reality that Dubya and his giddy GOP cronies represented something far more toxic and threatening to our American liberties than 'Slick Willie' Clinton ever did. No, they just preferred to turn a blind eye on and ignore the continuing depredations to our liberty and freedom as Americans that Dubya and his chicken-hawk pals constituted. So what was one to do? I patiently set to work acquainting my friends individually with the disappearance of our Bill of Rights, and I am glad to be able to report that most of them have by now "seen the light" and have individually swung themselves into the growing majority of Americans who steadfastly oppose Bush's neo-Fascist "Amerika".

The situation has reminded me of that humorous parody of the old poem called "If" that circulated about 20 years ago that went: "If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then you probably haven't heard the news yet!" Seriously, though, my respect and admiration for you surged, Webby, when I read your initial post in this string. And so I thank you for it, my friend.

Franz K.

[Franz]

MSN is in the process of purging every one of its Adult Group sites, presumably so Billy Gates can make MSN appear "user friendly" to the puritannical mainland Chinese and to the extremist American Fundamentalist-Evangelical Protestant groups who operate on the assumption that everyone in this country is to think and exactly as they do themselves.

Some of the guys who posted messages protesting the fact of this strong on the Baord whined that they had not personally seen any evidence of Dubya and the Boys trying to override their constitutional liberties and rights. Well, folks, go take a look at what's presently happening to all the Adult Groups on MSN. If the Busheviks and the extremist Fundies get their way, no Adult Groups will be allowed to participate on the Web at all not that much further down the road.

Oh, and, WEbby, I think your idea of having another, separate board on this site where interested visitors can post and read messages pertaining to a subject other than male feet is truly a good one. More power to you.

F.

[adam200]

I just don't understand why the majority of people assume you must be totally against Bush just because you're gay. I voted for him the first time, the second time and if he could run again, he would have my vote a third time.

Just my opinion...for what's in worth, which is probably not much here on this board!

[pltown610]

Oooh, Adam 200 babe do you Bush at would be the best man at our wedding; your just my tiype guy :roll:

[footlicker76]

if people do not want to look at it then dont look at it. user freindly ? what the bloody blazes does that mean any more? billy gates is a fool, a rich fool but still a fool. you dont like howard stern? thats what the little knob on your radio for, change the station, you dont like a certain t.v. program or feel that it is too violent for your kids to watch? ever here of the V-CHIP?
yes i belong to quite a few adult groups on yahoo mostly foot fetish groups and maybe four or five on msn groups, but if i dont want to look at them i can always DELETE them.
i have a freind who has five children the oldest is 16 and he has his own computor, but being the good parent that he is he has it password protected- power on password-so that his kids cannot see any porno images or join any adult groups or use the comp when he is not around. they can use the comp at school to do research for school projects, that is what passwords are for, he also checks his kids e-mail accounts at random times.
is he a tyrant because of this ? no.
is he trying to protect his children from all of the real sickos out there ? yes.
hell if i had kids, the only time they could surf the web is if i was standing there watching every move they made. or the comp was in a common area where i could pop in at any moment to see what they were looking at.
sorry guys i tend to get realy pissed at stupid little things like this at run off at the mouth, but i also feel that every one is entitled to an opinion.

[Franz]

But that's precisely the point I was getting at. You and I take the view that each ADULT individual is entitled to choose for himself or herself what he/she wants to view on the old PC. What anybody doesn't want to view, he doesn't have to view--and that's it.

But the problem arises for the rest of us as individuals because there are a hell of a lot of self-appointed, so-called Moral Watchdogs out there who have a compulsive inner need to be able to dictate to the rest of us what we as individuals should be able to view or should not be. And such a person tends to feel subjectively absolutely positive that he individually has the moral right to determine what everyone besides himself views, watches, or enjoys--PERIOD. And when such a person, or a whole group of them, begin to believe that their personal right and authority to diktate to others on such things is likewise their exclusive political right to enforce on others, that's when a Dubya Bush, a Dick Cheney, or, yes, some fool like Billy Gates starts asserting that Divine Providence somehow has endowed him/them with the moral and existential right to act authoritatively as everyone else's "moral" watchdog--and enforcer.

You are absolutely right: if Billy Gates or Dubya Bush doesn't want to view Adult Group material on his personal PC, all he has to do is not visit the sites or leave them immediately as soon as he finds what is on a site unamenable to himself. That capability of determining what he personally views or watches isn't enough for him, however. Taking the view, as all such fools do, that their personal beliefs and "morality" endow them magically with the moral and political right to regulate and control other peoples' lives, they act, in concert, to band together for the express purpose of establishing their personal authority and control over everybody else.

The self-righteous bastards piously point to their self-assumed individual "moral superiority" and/or ideological vision as entitling and giving them the right and "moral" duty to control other people's lives and personal choices, regardless of whether other people want to voluntarily accept their beliefs and their presumed authority to enforce them or not. And, when the rest of us respond by telling them to go take a hike, then they are ready to use force to make us obey their dictates. The traditional American belief in every person's right to determine for himself what he does or doesn't do flies right out of the window. And it's my own view that at present that's where as a national community we all stand: with a self-worshipping group of pseudo-moralists standing absolutely convinced that they as a group have the right and (as they see it) the rightful authority to dictate to the entire American population as a whole what we as individuals think and believe and choose to do or not do in our lives. As amazing as it is to me, these pseudo-moralists have deceived themselves into believing that it is their "God-given" right to control other people and dictate to them that stands as an objective testment to their individual moral supremacy. Well, duh! Wrong-o.

The sad fact of the matter is that it is that bunch of self-assuming dictator wannabes who are in fact completely out of sync with traditional American concepts of self-determination and individual liberty. Some monkey like Bush can deck himself out in the pretend-uniform of an American military pilot and stage a breath-taking landing on an achored U.S. aircraft carrier vessel in San Diego Bay and use that stagey set-up as visual evidence of his presumed personal excellence and moral authority to dictate to the rest of us, but we are none of us morally bound to take him at his self-evaluated view of himself as God's personal choice to be the suler and savior of the human race. Georgie Boy has spent way too much time watching Hollywood "hero" films and has from Day One of his wretched existence taken personal advantage of the fact that he was born into the elite Bush clan, with a silver spoon in his mouth, and, once he finally managed (more or less!) to stop using booze and drugs not all that many years ago as a daily prop to enables himself to face life, he obviously concluded that his personal concept of herotic action, his elite, privileged identity as a Bush family member, and his brilliant victory over himself where booze and drugs are concerned all combined to make him God's special Anointed One, entitlted by Divine Providence to rule over and inspire the rest of the morally weak human race. The man is a hopeless megalomaniac. The potential tragedy for Americans generally is this self-worshipping yahoo is just itching to lob nuclear warheads on any foreign peoples or leaders who refuse to view him in what he feels and proclaims to be "the proper light". In terms of his being a competent, humane leader, this seedy, greedy man is a joke--but who's laughing? And who, pray tell, will be laughing a year from now or two years from now? Only the Dark One, I'm afraid.

[NJfootwashwer]

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[jockfun1]

This is not the place for this stuff.
just VOTE next time, and keep voting til you get your candidates in office. he got 60 million votes, he was democratically elected.
give it up. just face it, he is in now, and is PRESIDENT.
you look so sour by grabbing at straws with this.
thanks,
matt

[barryrav]

He may be your president, but he isn't mine! I have no leaders, as these "leaders" do not represent me in any fashion whatsoever. Why should they? The Bush Regime sees me as a fifth-class citizen at best (not Christian, not heterosexual, no kids, believe in racial/ethnic equality), so why should I expect anything more?

Therefore, I have a country which I love, but no leaders. I refuse to acknowledge anything about them except the fact they exist. No better than they do to me.

If you want to acknowledge people who hate you at face value as your leaders, you go right ahead. I'm not going to be that self-loathing.

And yes, I do accept that the regime won. I also accept they have 3 more years (gag!) representing people who hate me's values. And yes, I do intend to vote and keep voting until people who represent all Americans are back in power.