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    Quote Originally Posted by DrawnTG321 View Post
    ...A YouTube member messaged me... saying that what I am doing is wrong; that I am showcasing men who did not intend to have their feet sexualized....
    I decline to comment on the morality of knowingly asking someone to participate in something with hidden, additional motives. Instead, let's look at this from a "legal" angle. (No, I am not a lawyer. But I am a video producer.)

    The question to ask is: Did each actor sign a model release? Every video producer I know requires anyone appearing in his work to sign a model release. The wording usually includes a clause that states, more or less, that "I own the rights to this video footage and I can do whatever I want with any part of it and you can't do a damn thing about it". If the actors signed a similarly worded model release... too bad for them, should they find out that foot freaks are digging them for more than their acting skills.

    But they are all grown men. They should be smart enough to understand what it was that they had gotten themselves involved.

    Secondly... a corollary to "Rule 34": If it exists, someone is jacking off to it. This is the Internet. Everyone knows the truth of Rule 34, whether or not they know its name. How could anyone possibly think that media featuring oneself could never end up in possession of someone who would "sexualize" it?

    At this particular moment, I would be more concerned with the legality than the morality. Without the written consent of the those men who were filmed, you could be looking forward to cease-and-desist orders, time in court, and possibly being on the (very expensive) losing end of a lawsuit.
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    The legality issue is very important. Of course, I would find these men rather reckless if they didn't suspect in this day and age that anyone filming their feet might end up on YT or some such thing. When you engaged them in this endeavor, did you tell them what you were going to do with the video? They really have a right to know.

    In terms of morality, I find myself seemingly hypocritical on that issue. Most of us post pics (myself included) of guys who aren't intending to have their feet used as fetish objects. But for some reason I find it acceptable to post a pic I've found of a guy walking around in his barefeet, or a guy doing some kind of activity where his feet are exposed for us to see them.. I justify it by saying the pics are on the internet anyway - we live in a culture now where everyone is capturing everyone else and themselves on film and posting it in cyberspace. We are strange new animals - everyone is exhibitionistic in some form or another. So if I come across a pic of guys playing touch football in their barefeet floating around, then why not post it here where other guys who like looking at barefoot guys can see it? Maybe it's because I am so removed several degrees from the original intention that it seems acceptable to me?

    However, there was a vid I found on YT one time of a guy with a camera who tricked another guy in showing his feet. The filmtaker engaged in innocent conversation with him and they talked about his shoes, and then the filmtaker took the plunge and touched the guy's feet, freaking the target out. The guy taking the film found it funny and posted the vid for all to see. Others may find it innocent schoolboy prank-fun , others may find it a complete turn-on - but I found it creepy and predatory and I felt embarrassed for the target.

    But in your vids, these subjects seem to be thoroughly enjoying themselves. I guess the queston is: have you been honest with them and told them exactly what you planned to do with the vids? If these are real school employees, they have the risk of being publicly embarrassed and their reps and careers hurt. These aren't professional models who make a living using their bodies as commodity.

    That said, I really have to ask: do you pay these men to do this? I am especially intrigued by the Coach Cullard video (not just because he has awesome beautiful feet) - there are people in the next room watching you film his feet?

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    Well, I should explain the origins of the videos. I think it will help.

    Years ago, a friend of mine who I will refer to as David recorded a horror spoof trailer for his high school senior project. He made it about how teachers were killing the students with foot odor. He did intend to use female teachers, but had an incident involving a teacher with a skirt and then decided to stick with male teachers.

    He didn't intend for the footage to viewed from the perspective of foot fetishism, but more on the side of comedy. (I know, hard to believe, but I do think he is telling truth and he himself is kind of embarrassed as to how he did not realize he might have been perceived as a foot creeper by the teachers. )

    After he posted the trailer online, I caught wind of it and got in contact with him and we eventually began a friendship. He had forgotten that he had all of the footage he used for the trailer (even the non-foot stuff which was roughly half of the footage uploaded), but eventually took them down).

    I asked if he wouldn't mind if I posted the videos for the sake of foot fetishism years ago. He initially declined, but over the years, warmed up to the idea and thought there was no harm. Through FTP, he sent me the raw footage without sound and asked me to change the names of the teachers to ensure that the videos would not be found and the teachers will not get into trouble.

    Now, he is a bit hesitant because of what I told him the YouTuber said and he doesn't want things to escalate, but he does think it is rather harmless.

    Yeah.

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    Hmm, maybe at the very least you could put them up for a "limited time" and let us know, so we can see them, and then take them down? (that's what the "excited" part of me wants to say, lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by OdorEater View Post
    Hmm, maybe at the very least you could put them up for a "limited time" and let us know, so we can see them, and then take them down? (that's what the "excited" part of me wants to say, lol)
    You can also put them up as a private video. That way, only people who have a direct URL can see them. So we'd all be free to view them by clicking links on the forum, but regular folks wouldn't even know the videos were out there.



    That might be for the best because I highly doubt that a high school kid filming his senior project would have gotten release forms from his actors. In a real production, yes-- even in a film for a college course possibly, but I doubt anyone would have bothered with filing legal documents for a high school senior project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tenchichan View Post
    I highly doubt that a high school kid filming his senior project would have gotten release forms from his actors. In a real production, yes-- even in a film for a college course possibly, but I doubt anyone would have bothered with filing legal documents for a high school senior project.
    I think you're right, and I agree (which is kind of redundant, lol). And as has been mentioned before, I also find it incredible that this guy apparently doesn't have a male foot fetish. Then again, if you are making a specific type of short film, of course you will need to re-shoot scenes, get details just right, etc. It's just coming from the perspective of foot fetishists (us), that it seems very difficult to believe he isn't at least the slightest big interested in/turned on by men's bare feet when we're watching these; I mean, he's basically doing exactly what WE would do if we were in his shoes (no pun intended). "Oops, we'll need to do that again...can you put your bare feet up the desk one more time? Maybe twice, just to make sure we get a good take..."

    It's also highly amusing he never realized his "foot"age could be seen as filmwork from a foot fetish perspective, lol.

    And it does make you wonder what some (all?) of those male teachers thought when this kid was filming their bare feet, and requesting scene details with their feet filmed over, and over, and over again; and why he was "sole"ly concentrating on only men's feet (it's been stated he wanted to involve women too, and even if we do believe him on that without question, it still looks like "circumstantial suggestiveness").


    Quote Originally Posted by tenchichan View Post
    You can also put them up as a private video. That way, only people who have a direct URL can see them.
    That is a great idea! I don't know why I didn't think of that! Good job, technician.

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    Yeah, nah, David did not get the teachers to sign any consent form. Back then, he didn't really know about such a thing.

    I've discussed it and he thinks the videos can be up publicly until the end of this year and (POSSIBLY) to the end of next year, and then they will be private.

    It sounded like a good plan!

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    i, too, have a similar conundrum...

    i have a good friend who has some very hot feet...and, while he was asleep in his chair, managed to take a couple clips ....i know you all will find his feet very hot (he's a 42 y.o. italian straight guy), and i don't show his face...still, if he were ever to find out, he'd never speak to me again!...i was thinking of just posting them on the footguys website...
    so...should i? shouldn't i?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanmt View Post
    i, too, have a similar conundrum...

    i have a good friend who has some very hot feet...and, while he was asleep in his chair, managed to take a couple clips ....i know you all will find his feet very hot (he's a 42 y.o. italian straight guy), and i don't show his face...still, if he were ever to find out, he'd never speak to me again!...i was thinking of just posting them on the footguys website...
    so...should i? shouldn't i?
    alanmt, I say you could do it as a private URL and post it only here. Sounds good.

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    I am new to the "solving of this conundrum" myself, but here is what I think you can do:

    1) Change His Name - I think it is common for most male foot fetish sites to have different names for their models to protect their identity and such (unless they're a porn star or if they do not mind). For example, I am sure Duke (bottom right) and Owen are the same person, but he uses different names (and probably not his real one) If you put it on YouTube and you use a different name, the likelihood of him finding the video decreases.

    2) Make The Video Unlisted or Private - I personally prefer unlisted, because at times, the password may be a bitch to find and as long as someone has the link, they can find the video. However, I do think the first precaution should suffice. People Google and YouTube themselves, but if his name is not used, the chances of him finding the video decreases. The only possible way he could find the video if he also has an interest in feet, which MAY negate some of the anger since he may understand our urges.

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